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Tired of wondering where your next lead will come from? What if you had a reliable, and predictable, source of new potential customers coming into your sales funnel each month? This is Predictable Prospecting and here I'll show you how some of the best sales leaders in the industry are creating consistent, and measurable procedures to bring in fresh, qualified leads to their sales funnels each and every month.
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Oct 27, 2020

What do you know about team selling? What are the advantages to approaching sales from a team position? In today’s episode, you’ll hear from Trish Bertuzzi, founder and CEO of The Bridge Group and author of The Sales Development Playbook. Listen in to hear what Trish has to say about what team selling models look like, what the benefits of the team selling approaches are, and how you can start thinking about team selling as an option in your business.

Episode Highlights: 

  • What team selling means
  • What a team selling model looks like
  • Hybrid roles
  • How to start looking at team selling as an option
  • Different versions of team selling
  • Developing a team sales strategy that makes sense for you
  • What account hierarchy looks like
  • The continuity of team selling
  • What you can learn from being part of a team
  • Why you need to think differently about your selling model
  • Where sales goes from here


Trish Bertuzzi

The Bridge Group

Oct 20, 2020

Following up is a vital part of the sales process that is often overlooked. Are you following up when you should be? What are the best strategies for following up? What method of follow up is most popular – and is the most popular method really the best method? To learn more, listen to today’s episode in which you’ll hear from Jeff Shore, who’s recently released a book geared toward giving you the information that you need to know about the importance of and best practices for follow up.

Episode Highlights: 

  • Why Jeff wrote his new book, Follow Up and Close the Sale
  • How the book is organized
  • What follow up isn’t
  • What follow up is for
  • How follow up shows customers how much we care
  • The strategy of follow up
  • Why email shouldn’t be the number one method of follow up
  • Jeff’s definition of the lead conversion hour
  • How to get immersed in the follow up process
  • The story of Bill Porter
  • The knee of the curve


Follow Up and Close the Sale: Make Easy (and Effective) Follow-Up Your Winning Habit

Oct 13, 2020

Over the years, it’s become more and more obvious that the subscription model is a viable business model for any number of products and services. How can you develop a membership mindset? What can successful subscription models teach you about sales? Today’s guest is the expert on the subject. Listen in to hear from Robbie Kellman Baxter, author of The Membership Economy and the new book The Forever Transaction. In today’s episode, Robbie discusses her background and qualification, what she knows about cultivating good customers, and what listeners can do to get started on a membership mindset. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • How Robbie came to be an expert in her subject
  • Parallels to the SAAS world in Robbie’s process
  • B to C companies vs B to B companies
  • How Robbie decided to write her book
  • Where to get started with a membership mindset
  • Indicators of good customers
  • Putting customers on a path to success
  • Whether surveys important at looking at where clients are
  • Top three things listeners can do to get started
  • The difference between customer support and customer success


Robbie Kellman Baxter

The Forever Transaction

Aug 18, 2020

Sales is more than numbers, quotas, and commissions, but it can be easy to lose sight of the value that you can bring to others through sales. Today’s guest is here to talk about going beyond the numbers and embracing service through sales. 

Clancy Clark is the author of a book called Selling by Serving: Find Fulfillment in Your Career and Sell More Than You Ever Thought Possible. He’s also the author behind a method that he uses for selling and speaking and coaching that teaches about how to have a more fulfilling sales career. Listen in to hear what Clancy has to say about the steps of his method, the role of empathy in sales, and how listeners can learn how to apply Clancy’s methods. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • How intuition and being human are the precursors for Clancy’s book
  • How Clancy was able to create a series of steps for selling by serving
  • Whether the steps should be followed in a particular order
  • How empathy on the part of salespeople will factor into sales post-Covid-19
  • Looking at sales as a way of helping people
  • Sincerity in sales
  • The ways that listeners can learn about how to apply Clancy’s steps in their practice
  • Method vs. Mastery


Clancy Clark

Jun 9, 2020

Succeeding at the top of the funnel requires some out-of-the-box thinking, and that’s what today’s guest has skill and experience with. Max Traylor offers his clients productized consulting services and is the author of a new book called Agency Survival Guide. In today’s episode, Max discusses the impetus for the book, how he got into productized consulting, and why he uses the agency framing to talk about his clients. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • The impetus for Max’s book
  • How Max first started to get residual passive income
  • Blending consistency and customizability
  • What Max discovered interviewing people on his podcast
  • Separating strategy from implementation
  • Three stages to residual income
  • Why Max uses the agency framing
  • The importance of a healthy balance in clients
  • How Max plans to socialize the book
  • Where listeners can find Max’s book


Max Traylor

May 12, 2020

As you start to think about what marketing and sales might look like in a post-COVID-19 world, it’s worth considering how you can be more prepared for another similar type of event. We’ve seen that the world can change overnight, and that often means changing your message, strategy, and even the channels that you use to communicate with your contacts.

Kendra Lee is the founder and President of KLA Group out of Denver. Today, she joins the podcast to talk about the habits, workflows, tools, and other things that you can do on a daily basis that would prepare you for some event like this.

Episode Highlights: 

  • What type of work Kendra does with clients
  • Why the work that Kendra does is important
  • Leveraging the different technologies and channels available to you when you need to shift your message
  • How the personas change when the message or channel changes
  • What to do when you lose a channel or it becomes less effective
  • Thinking strategically about the conversations that you need to have
  • Involvement in the nurture sequence side of things
  • Supporting sales reps
  • Kendra’s favorite spots in the bottom of the funnel
  • Kendra’s upcoming goals


KLA Group

May 5, 2020

Whether you’re new to sales or you’ve been in the game for a while and you’re looking for a way to achieve sales mastery, today’s guest has some ideas for you Simon Portwain is the author of a new book, Sales Icon: Selling in the Shadows.

Simon joins the podcast today to talk about some of the ideas that he covers in his book. Listen in to hear what he has to say about sales momentum, developing a sales journey plan, and transitioners for salespeople. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • Why Simon was motivated to write this book
  • What sales momentum is
  • The framework around sales momentum
  • How sales journey plans develop
  • Where sales journey plans start
  • What influences sales activity
  • How momentum and journey are linked to transitioners
  • Finding your success formula


Simon Portwain

Sales Icon: Selling in the Shadows – Amazon

Sales Icon: Selling in the Shadows – Barnes and Noble

Email Simon: 

Dec 3, 2019

Is selling just a job, or is it a lifestyle? Is it possible that people normally seen as innovators are really just masters of sales? These are some of the topics addressed by today’s guest. Michael Hageloh is the author of the book Live from Cupertino. Michael spent 22 years working with Apple, then turned his attention to working with entrepreneurial startups. Listen to today’s episode to hear what Michael has to say about applying strategy to process, the importance of practice, and how practice applies to the concepts that Michael explains in his book. 

Episode Highlights:

  • Where Michael’s work fits in along the pipeline
  • Applying strategy to process
  • How practice applies to the concepts in Michael’s book
  • How to put together a conversation to practice the conversation
  • Selling as a lifestyle
  • Disruptive revolution
  • Building connections that lead to relationships
  • Understanding the outlier
  • How goals are one part of a system 


Live from Cupertino

Oct 29, 2019

How are C-Suite buyers different from the typical inbound lead buyers? How is the conversation different with these different types of buyers? Today’s guest is Skip Miller, sales training expert, President of M3 Learning, and author. In today’s episode, Skip discusses ideas from his new book Selling Above and Below the Line: Convince the C-Suite. Win Over Management. Secure the Sale. Listen in to learn more about the difference between above the line and below the lines sales, tools you can use to create an above the line narrative, and what to focus in in above the line conversations. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • Whether an SDR is naturally inclined to prefer inbound
  • The different languages above and below the line
  • Different value propositions for buyers above and below the line
  • Tools to create an above the line narrative
  • Whether inbounds are typically above or below the line
  • Use cases where getting people to go above shortens the lag of time
  • What above the line conversations focus on
  • When to discuss what the new normal will look like
  • Understanding above the line energy
  • The ratio of questions in above the line conversations
  • Call planning
  • Importance of understanding both above the line and below the line conversations 


Skip Miller

M3 Learning

Selling Above and Below the Line

Oct 15, 2019

Can daily meditations help you develop your brand or find your purpose? To talk about that, John Jantsch of Duct Tape Marketing joins the podcast today. Listen in to hear what John has to say about his new book, why he was interested in putting out a book on daily meditations, and what John learned while he worked on putting the book together.  

Episode Highlights: 

  • How long John has been running Duct Tape Marketing
  • John’s new book
  • What got John interested in putting out a book on daily meditations
  • The self-reliant part of John’s meditation book
  • Similarities between this and previous cycles in history
  • How John’s book could help entrepreneurs develop their brand or purpose
  • What John learned while putting his book together
  • John’s thoughts on the human condition
  • How recent college grads could benefit from John’s book
  • The daily rhythm of John’s book
  • What a passage from John’s book is like 


Duct Tape Marketing

The Self-Reliant Entrepreneur: 366 Daily Meditations to Feed Your Soul and Grow Your Business

Sep 24, 2019

Podcasting is still a new and growing medium, but it has a lot of exciting potential as a sales tool, among other things. Today’s guest, Matt Johnson, is the founder of a podcasting production agency and he has explored some interesting ways to use the medium that may be valuable to sales professionals. Listen in to hear about Matt’s LinkedIn script, his strategy using podcasting, and the results rates that he’s seen from his methods.  

Episode Highlights: 

  • What Matt does and who he serves
  • How Matt’s LinkedIn script works
  • Matt’s response rates, and how they compare to the average
  • The overall reaction to Matt’s lead generation
  • Matt’s overall strategy
  • Developing relationships with people in different parts of the sales process
  • How podcasting relates to problem solving and expertise
  • Where to start in podcasting
  • Where to look for podcasts that are a potential fit
  • Goals for beginning podcast hosts and guests 


Pursuing Results

How to Get Featured

Aug 20, 2019

While the importance of diversity is stressed in many industries today, other fields are still known for being “old boys clubs” – and sales is one of those fields. Today’s guest is here to talk about diversity in the sales and marketing industry and what has and hasn’t changed for women in those fields. 

Natalie Severino is the Vice President of Marketing at Listen to the conversation to hear what Natalie has to say about the research studying differences between men and women in sales, how men and women respond differently to job descriptions and requirements, and what people in leadership can do to bring in more women. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • What’s changing for women in sales and marketing
  • What the research says about the difference between the ways men and women sell
  • Reasons why women might outperform men in sales
  • Building rapport and establishing status
  • How the language in job descriptions affects female candidates
  • The difference between how men and women respond to job requirements
  • How marketing and sales differ in terms of diversity
  • What leadership can do to bring in more women
  • Women’s groups that listeners can attend 


Natalie Severino

Women Sales Pros

Girls Club

Aug 13, 2019

Who is the right person to talk to when you want to advance a prospect through the pipeline? When is the right time to talk to that person, and how should you do it? Today’s guest has some ideas. 

Joining the podcast today is Tukan Das, CEO of a company called LeadSift. Tukan is here to talk about whether or not you really can predict who is ready to buy, what a good work flow is, and how you work those leads so that you can increase the yield and lower the time it takes to get from the initial conversation to close. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • The statistics mentioned on LeadSift’s website
  • Why Tuakan started the LeadSift tool
  • Gauging intent data
  • Hyper personalizing sales conversations
  • Building an ideal signal profile
  • The steps toward scaling
  • How soon to jump into the middle term
  • What comes after the middle term
  • An exciting customer story
  • How the audience can connect with Tukan 


Tukan Das


Free Tool to Automate Research for prospecting

LeadSift HomePage

Google Alerts

Twitter Search

LinkedInSales Navigator


BuiltWith Toolbar

Alexa Ranking


Aug 6, 2019

Should you consider podcasting as part of your multi-touch campaigns? Can podcasting improve your sales numbers, and can you use your sales skills to make a quality podcast – or use podcasting to hone your sales skills? Today’s guest is here to discuss how sales professionals could be using podcasts. 

Michael Greenberg is the CEO of Call for Content, a podcasting agency that makes it easy for businesses and organizations to develop podcasts. Listen to the interview to hear what Michael has to say about strategies for using podcasts to drive sales, routines and duration options for beginning podcasters, and the importance of consistency in podcasting. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • Whether podcasting is on the radar for sales executives
  • Success rates using podcasting strategies
  • Inviting prospects onto the podcast as experts
  • What sales executives can talk about on a podcast
  • Typical rhythms of salespeople starting a podcast
  • Building camaraderie through podcasts
  • Coordinating guest posts with your social media
  • Using podcast agencies
  • Podcast duration guidelines
  • What kind of research goes into a 30-minute podcast
  • Consistency in podcasting
  • Next steps for salespeople who are interested in podcasting
  • Podcasts as an opportunity for role-playing 


Michael Greenberg

Call for Content

The B2B Podcast Playbook

Jul 30, 2019

Is the funnel model fundamentally flawed? If so, how do salespeople approach that problem in a new and different way? Today’s guest will help explain why it may be helpful to think about the funnel in a different way.

Carman Pirie is the Co-Founder of Kula Partners, which is currently handling mostly manufacturing clients. Carman is working on turning the funnel sideways – but what does that mean? Listen in to find out, as Carman discusses why he’s excited about his work, how to get companies to think in a way that emphasizes personalization, and how to get past resistance to sales’ involvement in building campaigns. 

Episode Highlights:

  • Why Carman got excited about the work that he does
  • How Carman is turning the funnel sideways
  • Carman’s process for starting conversations
  • How to get companies to think in a more personalized way
  • How to get past resistance to letting sales build campaigns
  • What changes in marketing when dealing with a smaller number of accounts
  • Starting the engagement process
  • Direct mail segmentation
  • How firms get started with Kula Partners


Carman Pirie

Kula Partners

Jul 16, 2019

How do you set up a pipeline that leverages all types of channels and technology, but also keeps that human spirit alive? Today’s guest will help answer that question and others. 

Joining the podcast today is Jonathan Soares. Jonathan is the founder and CEO of Agency Labs and has a background in both technology and consumer sales. He’s been at this for 15 years and he covers the entire pipeline. Listen in to hear. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • Jonathan’s background and how he got to his current position
  • How to leverage cold calling with newer technology and how that can advance prospects through the pipeline
  • What a typical warm introduction looks like and what technologies to use
  • How many opportunities can be generated from Jonathan’s process
  • Different roles within the funnel
  • Influencer mapping
  • How the GDPR affects Jonathan’s work
  • How to get started leveraging LinkedIn 


Jonathan Soares


Jul 12, 2019

Can you get better performance from your team just by asking questions? Asking the right questions can build and strengthen your management coaching skills and allow your team to perform at their highest levels. Today’s guest will explain how the ability to ask the right questions can help you tap into the human potential of your team. 

Chick Herbert is a Des Moines executive who’s come up with a process that he calls question-centric coaching. Listen in to hear what Chick has to say about pinpointing where people on your team are struggling, asking the right questions, and motivating your team. 

Episode Highlights: 

  • Chick’s background
  • Chick’s working relationship with Brad Williams
  • Pinpointing where people are struggling
  • Asking questions that get people to contemplate their own struggles and behavior
  • The frustration of witnessing ineffective leaders
  • What about Chick’s process motivates people
  • Tracking progress
  • Whether styles of coaching differ based on sales roles
  • Extending knowledge to other team members
  • What to do when you’re not used to asking questions
  • How to use silence
  • The value of preparation
  • Truth and ground truth 


Chick Herbert

It Begs the Question

Chick on Twitter

Email Chick:

Jun 4, 2019

How does trust between team members translate to better communication and higher performance? And how can you translate your trust-building skills to your sales calls in order to build rapport quickly?

To explore these questions and more, Jason Treu joins today’s podcast episode. Jason is an executive coach who works with teams to help them build trust and communication skills and increase performance. He’s also the author of the book Social Wealth. Listen in to hear what Jason has to say about the top issues in the sales industry today, how to turn a team into a cohesive unit, and how to build rapport in the first few minutes of a phone call.

Episode Highlights:

  • The top issues Jason sees in the industry today
  • The importance of hiring
  • Whether any type of team can be turned into a cohesive team
  • Where to start in building a trust mindset
  • The trust-building process
  • Building rapport in the first few minutes of a call
  • Jason’s book, Social Wealth: How to Build Extraordinary Relationships By Transforming the Way We Live, Love, Lead and Network
  • What can be done to start getting teams to high performance


Jason Treu

Social Wealth: How to Build Extraordinary Relationships By Transforming the Way We Live, Love, Lead and Network


May 28, 2019

How are you using technology to boost your sales prowess? Is there more that you could be doing? Do you like your CRM, and if not, how would you improve it? Today’s interview may give you some ideas. 

Today’s guest is Jordan Stupar, the founder and CEO of Sales Domination. Sales Domination is a company that provides CRM and technology tools to individuals as well as small, medium, and large companies. Listen in as Jordan talks about his company, his background, and how he thinks technology is affecting the sales landscape.   

Episode Highlights: 

  • What Jordan’s company does
  • Jordan’s background
  • Which areas of technology Jordan focuses on
  • Technological enhancements that can be used to improve meaningful sales conversations
  • Using data to improve workflow
  • How technology is improving analytics
  • How analytics can suggest next steps 


Jordan Stupar

Sales Domination

Jordan on Instagram

May 21, 2019

What do you do when you connect with a warm lead, but they don’t seem receptive? What’s the difference between adding value for a prospect and actually helping that prospect? These are some of the questions that today’s guest will help answer.

Joining the podcast today is Michael Pedone from SalesBuzz. Michael is an advocate for sales skills and SalesBuzz is an online sales training site that provides helpful information for sales professionals that can help take you from the top of the funnel all the way to the close. Listen to today’s episode to hear what Michael has to say about common mistakes people make with important sales skills, the definition of a cold call, and connecting through LinkedIn.

Episode Highlights:

  • The most impactful sales skill that Michael sees people bungle
  • The definition of a cold call
  • Throwing out the “easy” button
  • Why you shouldn’t remind a warm lead that they filled out a form
  • Approaching leads with the intent to help
  • The difference between adding value and helping
  • The cadence that works best in a selling situation and how to blend it with different modalities
  • Connecting through LinkedIn
  • How often you should be prospecting
  • Why people should really want to be in sales



Michael Pedone

May 14, 2019

Just the idea of prospecting can be stressful. Calling strangers can take a real toll on you, and it’s easy to get discouraged and believe that prospecting isn’t right for you. But within a predictable framework, prospecting doesn’t have to be so difficult. That’s part of what today’s guest is here to talk about.

Joining the podcast today is Jason Bay. He is the Co-Founder and Chief Founding Officer of Blissful Prospecting, a company that works with clients to create a predictable prospecting system. Listen in to hear what Jason has to say about how he got into prospecting, his approach to creating personas, and how to address common errors in messaging.

Episode Highlights:

  • What prompted Jason’s interest in prospecting
  • Mixing modalities
  • How much time Jason spends in the planning stages with clients to develop messaging
  • Jason’s approach to personas
  • The ideal client profile identifier
  • Applying the research to one-person consulting businesses
  • Errors in messaging that Jason sees frequently
  • Jason’s REPLY method
  • Incorporating personalization in messaging


Jason Bay

Blissful Prospecting

Selling Above and Below the Line

Free Guide to Getting Started with Video Prospecting

Apr 16, 2019

The experience of being a customer has changed rapidly just over the past few decades. But while the customer experience has changed, has it improved? Is there room for further improvement?

Today’s guest is Ian Moyse of Natterbox. He joins the podcast today to talk about disruptions in the customer experience, how customer experience is changing, and why it matters. Listen in to hear what Ian has to say about where this kind of disruption has the biggest impact, how buyer personas can improve the customer experience, and how customer experience impacts revenue and customer loyalty.

Episode Highlights:

  • How disruptors are changing the customer experience
  • Where disruption is having the biggest impact
  • When consumers prefer to interact with a human rather than a machine
  • Using buyer personas to optimize the customer experience
  • When it’s important to communicate via phone rather than email or chat
  • Analyzing how customer experience impacts loyalty and revenue


Ian Moyse

Ian on Twitter


Apr 9, 2019

You may recognize today’s guest from previous episodes of this podcast. Max Altschuler is the CEO and Founder of SalesHacker Inc. and the VP of Marketing at Max is also one of the co-authors of a new book, Sales Engagement: How The World's Fastest Growing Companies are Modernizing Sales Through Humanization at Scale 1st Edition

In today’s conversation, Max talks about his new book, what inspired him to get involved with it, and what teachings in the book are most useful for sales professionals. Listen in to hear Max’s ideas on how sales and marketing to work together, how to use sales engagement strategies in closing, and what Max sees changing in the near future.

Episode Highlights:

  • What made Max decide to get involved with this new book
  • What teachings in the book are most impactful for sales professionals trying to start and close conversations with people they don’t know
  • Max’s definition of sales engagement
  • Which channels sales can use to better coordinate with marketing
  • How do sales methods of advancing prospects in the pipeline align with marketing
  • How sales engagement principles can be applicable to closing
  • Changes in how CRMs are being used
  • What Max sees changing in 2020


Max Altschuler

SalesHacker Inc.


Sales Engagement: How The World's Fastest Growing Companies are Modernizing Sales Through Humanization at Scale

Feb 26, 2019

Today’s guest comes from the marketing side of the business. And while that may be an unusual choice for this podcast, what Chris Dayley has to say about digital marketing can be useful for prospectors as well.

Chris is a digital marketing entrepreneur, speaker, and neuromarketer. He is also the VP of testing and site optimization at Disruptive Advertising in Utah. He’s skilled at helping people understand the impact of website landing pages, testing, analytics, and psychology. Listen to the episode to hear what Chris has to say about how his work related to outbound sales and different ways to use data, metrics, and testing.

Episode Highlights:

  • How Chris’s work fits into an outbound, targeted approach
  • What Chris is doing with analytics
  • Using data to refine the pitch
  • Metrics that can help prepare for contacting prospects
  • How Chris uses testing
  • Technology used for testing in sales
  • How best practices can vary from company to company, even within the same industry


Chris Dayley

Chris on Twitter

Disruptive Advertising Blog

Feb 19, 2019

Even with all of the social media and automated sales tools available, a one-on-one conversation over the telephone can still be a powerful selling tool, especially among consumers that value authenticity. The resurgence of the telephone call is one of the things that today’s guest talks about in this episode.

Mark Hunter is an author, speaker, coach, and consultant, as well as the Co-Founder of the Outbound Conference. Listen to the episode to hear what Mark has to say about what’s new in prospecting, the difference between informed calling and col calling, and how to get into the prospecting mindset.

Episode Highlights:

  • What’s new in prospecting
  • Why the telephone is making a resurgence and what Millennials have to do with it
  • Informed calling vs. cold calling
  • The place of automated follow-up systems in prospecting
  • Positive feedback that Mark has gotten about his book
  • Using social media for prep work
  • How to get into the prospecting mindset
  • The Outbound Conference


Mark Hunter

The Sales Hunter

High-Profit Prospecting

Outbound Conference

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